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- From: ell@access1.digex.net (Ell)
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- Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
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- Date: 21 Apr 1996 04:19:15 GMT
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- Huh? (wtf@computer.com) wrote:
- : ell@access1.digex.net (Ell) wrote:
- :
- : [snip]
- : >
- : >I think the tendency to go with a paradigm which appeals to the intuitive
- : >understanding of the intellect [is a good thing]. There is something
- : >significant there that
- : >can be of vital importance, and value to computer science and software
- : >engineering, imo. It is this intellectual appeal, which underlies the
- : >desire, and advice to embed, and layer OOA (most recently Rumbaugh in
- : >JOOP, but also Booch and Jacobson from the past) as the primary
- : >orientation of OOD.
- : >
- : [snip]
-
- : Excuse me, but what the hell are you trying say? The first sentence
- : is a real beauty, sort of like you got lost... Drivel, drivel,
- : drivel. Politicians could learn a lot from you.
-
- Read the above of what I intended to say. I'm only human, and make
- errors in expressing my thoughts. Given what I added, was it such a
- *big* mistake? I think not. If all you got from it was drivel, I think
- you have a problem with proper OOA perspective, or philosophy.
-
- : with expounders of Methodology A, Methodology B, etc. is that they get
- : tied up in the methodology, and forget that projects require tangible
- : results in a defined time scale (often very short).
-
- I don't think I've ever implied that a project doesn't require tangible
- results. I've always advocated real world grounded, iterative, and
- incremental software development process. This includes getting a running
- skeleton of a project up and running as soon as possible, AFTER proper
- initial analysis and architecture. Do you have a problem with that?
-
- : When you give an
- : application to an end user, do you think they care if it was designed
- : with structured methods, OOD, etc.?
-
- Yes, some users do want the most intuitive, easily traceable, and
- maintaneable software designs for the benefit of future application
- programmers. This saves the users both time, and money.
-
- Elliott
-